Comments on: a 9600 square foot liquor store on an already burdened route 28? http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/ Just the facts 'mam -- (please! curb your dog!) Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:04:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Dedicated Precinct3 Voter http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1370 Dedicated Precinct3 Voter Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:35:53 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1370 I just completed a 2000 word post on this topic. I will obviously not try to post it here. Instead, please check out my blog. http://precinct3truth.blogspot.com Dedicated Precinct3 Voter I just completed a 2000 word post on this topic. I will obviously not try to post it here. Instead, please check out my blog.

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]]> By: JSJ http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1347 JSJ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:48:14 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1347 I have heard from many people, including some who surprised me, that this usage will disrupt traffic in an already dangerously overburdened area of route 28 and that having a liquor store so close to a church, a school and such a short distance from another liquor store creates an issue with community character that needs to looked at closer by the ZBA. Thanks for the feedback on this. jsj I have heard from many people, including some who surprised me, that this usage will disrupt traffic in an already dangerously overburdened area of route 28 and that having a liquor store so close to a church, a school and such a short distance from another liquor store creates an issue with community character that needs to looked at closer by the ZBA.

Thanks for the feedback on this.

jsj

]]> By: JSJ http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1346 JSJ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:45:55 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1346 We can agree to disagree - interesting that you claim to have this informtation regarding the current location. Do a little more research, the current location does not have to be removed, as the conditions have changed. Are you actually saying that these people were correct to purchase this property with the expectation that the use would allow for a 9600 sq foot liquor store? That is just not true. It is rare that these purchases are made without the proper permits in place, and I am sure you know that. Janet Joakim We can agree to disagree - interesting that you claim to have this informtation regarding the current location. Do a little more research, the current location does not have to be removed, as the conditions have changed.

Are you actually saying that these people were correct to purchase this property with the expectation that the use would allow for a 9600 sq foot liquor store?

That is just not true.

It is rare that these purchases are made without the proper permits in place, and I am sure you know that.

Janet Joakim

]]> By: A. H. http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1338 A. H. Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:27:19 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1338 I came across this site by accident and read about the liquor store. I am not a resident of Barnstable, I am not a blogger, and I am not an attorney. I just wanted to correct some misinformation for no other reason, than to be accurate. First, a special permit is a presumption; a variance is not. For instance, a retail store (including a liquor store) is an "allowed" use in the HB district as long as certain conditions are met; hence a special permit. A use that is "not allowed" would require a variance. Numerous people purchase property with the assumption that a special permit would be granted because the only way a ZBA cannot grant a special permit is to say - you do not agree to meet our conditions. And the ZBA needs to thread carefully, as requiring an unreasonable amount of conditions could lead to a lawsuit. The second misinformation is that the DRI decision of the Cape Cod Commission requires that the current Blanchards building be razed if the mall were to ever expand - which is a possibility in the future. This is why the mall cannot offer Blanchards a long term lease. Again, this is just for information purposes only and offers no opinion whether or not Blanchards would be good for Barnstable or not. I came across this site by accident and read about the liquor store. I am not a resident of Barnstable, I am not a blogger, and I am not an attorney. I just wanted to correct some misinformation for no other reason, than to be accurate. First, a special permit is a presumption; a variance is not. For instance, a retail store (including a liquor store) is an “allowed” use in the HB district as long as certain conditions are met; hence a special permit. A use that is “not allowed” would require a variance. Numerous people purchase property with the assumption that a special permit would be granted because the only way a ZBA cannot grant a special permit is to say - you do not agree to meet our conditions. And the ZBA needs to thread carefully, as requiring an unreasonable amount of conditions could lead to a lawsuit.

The second misinformation is that the DRI decision of the Cape Cod Commission requires that the current Blanchards building be razed if the mall were to ever expand - which is a possibility in the future. This is why the mall cannot offer Blanchards a long term lease.

Again, this is just for information purposes only and offers no opinion whether or not Blanchards would be good for Barnstable or not.

]]> By: Bradley G Ouimette http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1328 Bradley G Ouimette Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:08:19 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1328 The KOC building there is a pit. The whole area needs to be rebuilt. I am sick of chasing crack heads out of the area. Currently, it is a very vile area with drug induced violence and pollution. I would rather see my kid walk by an established liquor store (or any other business), then the current area. I have can not fathom why you would want to stop any business from going in there. As far as the school, that's a middle school. the high school is just as close to the West Main liqour store. I am on the fence with this one. I definitely can not call this a "nightmare for local residents who travel Rt. 28 between Hyannis and Mashpee." (there are 10+ existing "nightmares" between the rotaries) I think I would be happy to see it with the light upgraded and a deal made with Quisset Villae to put up an abatement. Oh, and that is Wequaquet Lane, not Strawberry Hill Road. The KOC building there is a pit. The whole area needs to be rebuilt. I am sick of chasing crack heads out of the area. Currently, it is a very vile area with drug induced violence and pollution.

I would rather see my kid walk by an established liquor store (or any other business), then the current area. I have can not fathom why you would want to stop any business from going in there.

As far as the school, that’s a middle school. the high school is just as close to the West Main liqour store.

I am on the fence with this one. I definitely can not call this a “nightmare for local residents who travel Rt. 28 between Hyannis and Mashpee.” (there are 10+ existing “nightmares” between the rotaries)

I think I would be happy to see it with the light upgraded and a deal made with Quisset Villae to put up an abatement.

Oh, and that is Wequaquet Lane, not Strawberry Hill Road.

]]> By: John http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1324 John Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:59:26 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1324 Do we really want a liqour store so close to a school. Many children will be walking the area. Children will try to come up with ideas as to how they can purchase from the store, possibly asking people of age to buy for them? Do we really want a liqour store so close to a school. Many children will be walking the area. Children will try to come up with ideas as to how they can purchase from the store, possibly asking people of age to buy for them?

]]> By: Coddah http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1318 Coddah Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:42:57 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1318 Why do these people want to build a package store across the street from a school? Is this the type of business we want our kids to see going to and coming from school? Maybe we could build an Adult Entertainment complex next door....as long as it is set back off the road, who cares? Why do these people want to build a package store across the street from a school? Is this the type of business we want our kids to see going to and coming from school? Maybe we could build an Adult Entertainment complex next door….as long as it is set back off the road, who cares?

]]> By: TJ http://sevenvillagesblog.com/2008/03/03/a-9600-square-foot-liquor-store-on-an-already-burdened-route-28/#comment-1317 TJ Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:31:48 +0000 http://janetjoakim.wordpress.com/?p=461#comment-1317 yikes yikes

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